I believe this exchange of emails is good for 2 reasons: 1. It shows that there are honest and reputable businesses such as Isla Mazatlan Golden Resort on La Isla...
However this blogspot disagrees that Marina y Villas is an honest company; this company was originally owned by the wife of Sergio de la Pena; Manuel Cristerna; and Ubaldo Rojas, the nephew of Sergio de la Pena. This company did not have deeds to the homes and condominiums when they took millions from unsuspecting foreigners...now, who owns Marina y Villas Coral, S.A. de C.V.???...all FOREIGNERS know that Manuel Cristerna is the boss at El Faro/Lighthouse at this moment. Even though Manuel is "on the run", it appears he is running this business by his cell phone. We have been told that Manuel has many of the old people back working for him, just as he did in 2006, when he was stealing millions from Foreigners!
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THERE ARE ARREST WARRANTS NOW ISSUED FOR SERGIO DE LA PENA AND UBALDO ROJAS. MANUEL CRISTERNA HAS ALREADY BEEN IN JAIL...HOPEFULLY HE WILL BE PUT IN JAIL AGAIN !
THEREFORE, MARINA Y VILLAS SHOULD NOT BE LISTED AS A REPUTABLE COMPANY !!!
WHO IS TO BLAME? WE BELIEVE IT IS ULTIMATELY MARINA MAZATLAN . THIS VERY WEALTHY COMPANY COULD HAVE STOPPED THIS FRAUD 2 YEARS AGO !...THEY CONTROLLED ALL OF THE PROPERTY THAT WAS SOLD TO THESE CROOKS. HOWEVER, MARINA MAZATLAN HAS PROVEN THAT THEY DO NOT CARE...THE ONLY THING THEY CARE ABOUT IS MONEY, NOT THE SAFETY OF FOREIGNERS OR THE SAFETY OF THE FOREIGNER'S INVESTMENT.
Mexico is a beautiful country, but it is not these emailers scaring foreigners away...it is the action or inaction of authorities in this country that will ultimately decide this country's tourism fate ! If you want foreigners to continue to come to Mexico, and specifically Mazatlan, then THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE POWER IN MEXICO, AT THE LOCAL, STATE OR FEDERAL LEVEL NEED TO HELP !...THIS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY HAS GONE ON, LONG ENOUGH !
THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE EMAILS:
"I really must speak my mind about all of these comments that I see you are encouraging in that blog.
I understand that YOUR situation has not been near good with MANUEL CRISTERNA, but there is a HUGE difference between what this ONE person is doing and what Mexico represents.
I am really upset that you are doing all this campaign against MEXICO! It stopped being against Manuel….how in the world that happened? Sorry, but crime and flaws with the law exist EVERYWHERE in the world.
I am SURE this country has given you lots of good moments, and If you have been only to Mazatlan I encourage you to visit other states of this AMAZING country. You can not define MY WHOLE country because of ONE DISHONEST MAN.
Yes it is shameful what is happening and how things have been managed, but you more than anyone know that Mexico has a lot of good honest Business people. We have helped you in whatever we could, By posting all this bad comments about people speaking bad about the whole country, you loose credibility and power against the one person this blog started for the attention get deviated from the point you want to put out. In addition to that, you are harming a whole COUNTRY! The economic crisis is bad for all of us, I don’t think is fair that you harm all of us.
There are lots more families living from Jobs at Isla Mazatlan Golden Resort, and Marina y Villas, than the one of Manuel Cristerna.
Please all I am asking is that you and your friends stay FOCUSED on the real problem, which I assure you is NOT the whole country or even whole Mazatlan.
Thank you very much and have a good day.
Sincerely, "
REPLY TO THE EMAIL (IN SPANISH AND ENGLISH)
Si fuera un assunto de solomente un hombre enganoso no seria tan grande este problema. Pero el problema que yo encuentro segun la experiencia mia es que hay muchos hombres (personas) iqual como Manuel Cristerna. Cada persona con quien yo he tenido contacto durante a construccion y padsado la construccion de mi casa eran metirosos. La persona quien era el gerente de los trabajeros era mentiroso, Los avocados trabajando por Manuel eran mentirosos, el arquitecto es mentiroso, varios de los agentes trabajando por Cristerna y comunicando conmigo durante la construction de la casa, eran mentirosos. Siempre estaban tratando quitar mas dinero de mi para pagar por por trabajo todovia no hecho y por materiales de bajo calidad y no de aquerdo con el contracto. La gente en Marina Mazatlan ayudaban a Manuel Cristerna ganar dinero de mi. Yo tuve que pagar a Marina Mazatlan para las deudas de Manuel para el tereno. Todas estas cosas son ejemplos tipicas de una gente enganosa.
Lo que estoy tratando decir es que no es solo una persona, y no es solomente una compania.
Estoy de acuerdo que hay muchas personas buenas en Mejico, pero el modo de pensar es que si un extranjero or qualquier ortra persona esta mal tradado, no es problema de ellos.
Es dificil para una persona quien no es de Mejico saver como Manuel Cristerna todavia esta libre despues de hacer lo que el y muchos otros conectado con el han hecho.
Si la gente de Mazatlan no quieren recibir la misma mancha por las malas cosas que hacen personas como Manuel, tienen que metirse y mandar que personas como Cristerna no andan sobre la ley. Porque si ellos andan sobre la ley tiene el efecto significar que so sociadad de Mazatlan (Mejico) no tienen mucho respecto por la ley de su pais.
El problema no es mio, no es de las otras victimas, ni es totalmente el problema de los malvados como Manuel Cristerna. El problema mayor es con la gente general y los con authoridad quienes permitan a los malvados andar sobre las leys del pais.
Me explico?
-----------English-------------
If it were only a problem of one dishonest man it would not be such a large problem. But, the problem that I have encountered is that there are many people the same as Manuel Cristerna. Each person that I have had contact with during the construction and after the construction of my house was a liar. The supervisor of the workers was a liar, the lawyers working for Manuel were liars, the architect over the construction of my house is a liar, and the customer interface agents working for Manuel were liars. They were always trying to get more money from me for work that had not been completed etc. I had to pay Marina Mazatlan for Manuel’s bills that he owed that were not mine. But they knew they could get the money from me if I wanted to get a clear ownership of the land where my house was built. All these are typical examples of a dishonest people.
What I am trying to say is that it is not only one bad person, and it is not only one bad company.
I agree that there are many good people in Mexico, but all to often the way of thinking is that the problem was that of a foreigner or someone else and therefore not a problem for them.
It is difficult for a person who is not a Mexican to understand how Manuel Cristerna is still free after doing what he and others connected with him have done.
If the people of Mazatlan do not want to have the same black mark on them for the bad things that people like Manuel have done, then they have to get involved and demand that persons like Cristerna do not walk above the law. Because if they are above the law it has the effect of showing that the people of Mazatlan (Mexico) do not have any respect for the law of their country.
The problem is not mine, nor that of the other victims. It is not how we tell others about our bad experiences. Nor is it totally the problem of the bad guys like Manuel Cristerna. The major problem is with the general people and authorities of the land who permit such bad guys to go free above the laws of the country.
All the good can be blotted out by a few bad guys. Don’t forget that. What others want to say is; “We had a bad experience, but the bad guys were punished by the laws of the land, and justice was served.” But so far justice has not been served. Justice not served will always be a blemish on the entire city and country.
I hope I have explained this well.
the email which started this exchange of emails:
la dirección de correo electrónico que se inició este intercambio de mensajes de correo electrónico: Una más y me alegro de información es cada vez más al público acerca de cómo la mala Manuel y sus amigos son. Se trata de una marca en Mazatlán negro y ciertamente hay para todos los desarrolladores. He sido la difusión de la palabra. Entre estos tipos y todas las malas noticias sobre las guerras de la droga pasa en Mexico la mayoría de las personas que tienen contacto con definitivamente han cambiado de opinión acerca de invertir en Mexico, e incluso visitar Mexico. Negocio que va a empeorar mucho en los resultados del fraude, la mentira y el robo se propagan. Sé que he hablado con cientos de personas. Algunos de ellos ya conocen los problemas allí y otros están demasiado asustados para visitar Mexico. Usted podría pensar que las autoridades de ese país y la buena gente de negocios que hacen un rápido fin a Manuel Cristerna y su banda. Será un largo tiempo antes de ahora los inversores extranjeros y jubilados superar esta mala opinión acerca de la vida y hacer negocios en Mexico. Cada vez que hablo con la gente en los EE.UU. acerca de mi casa, siempre me pregunta si es seguro para vivir allí. No puedo hacer que cualquiera de mis amigos a venir y me visita en Mazatlán. Desgraciadamente estas malas noticias se propagan y dijo cionadas y para las generaciones y llevará a muchas personas el temor de Mexico por muchos muchos años y creo que es totalmente al margen de la ley existe. Esta es, probablemente, no demasiado lejos de la verdad. Es realmente demasiado malo para Mazatlán, Mexico, e incluso los de uso que han querido poner nuestro dinero y la jubilación a esa zona. Personalmente, lamento hacerlo. | ||
A am glad more and more information is getting out to the public about how bad Manuel and his friends are. It is a black mark on Mazatlan and certainly for all developers there. I have been spreading the word. Between these guys and all the bad news about the drug wars going on in Mexico most people that I have contact with have definitely changed their minds about investing in Mexico and even visiting Mexico. Business there is going to get a lot worse as the results of the fraud, lies and theft are propagated. I know that I have talked to hundreds of people. Some of them already know the problems there and others are too frightened to even visit Mexico.
You would think that the authorities there and the good business people would make a quick end to Manuel Cristerna and his gang. It will be a long time now before foreign investors and retirees will overcome this bad view about living and doing business in Mexico. Every time I talk to people now in the USA about my house there, they always ask me if it is safe to live there. I can’t get any of my friends to even come and visit me in Mazatlan. Unfortunately these bad stories will be propagated and told and retold for generations and many people will carry a fear of Mexico for many many years and believe it is totally lawless there. This is probably not too far from the truth. It is really too bad for Mazatlan, Mexico, and even those of use who have wanted to bring our money and retirement to that area. I personally regret doing so.
No comments:
Post a Comment